Curt and Katie talk about all things supervision

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

Episode 28: Giving and Getting Good Supervision

In this episode we talk about:

  • Why people become supervisors
  • Models of supervision
  • The importance of good supervision
  • What makes supervision ineffective
  • The problem with the notion of “training the competition” or seeing supervisees money making machines
  • How to nurture the next generation
  • Finding the right supervisor/supervisee match
  • The different aspects of supervision: administrative, clinical, professional development, consumer protection
  • Differences between public mental health and private practice supervision
  • Our anger about people taking advantage of prelicensees
  • The importance of following employment law
  • How supervision impacts the profession
  • The difference between therapy and supervision
  • What supervisees are responsible for (and what they shouldn’t be responsible for, but often are)
  • School and supervisors passing the buck – you should learn about this in school, they should train you in supervision

Resources mentioned:

We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.

CAMFT (California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists) Certified Supervision Program

The Developmental Model of Supervision

Reflective Supervision

Recovery-Oriented Supervision

Trauma-Informed Supervision

Seven-Eyed Supervision Model by Hawkins and Shohet

Curt’s Supervision Workshop:

Supervision in Private Practice: Legal & Ethical Issues

Our events this year:

The Brand Called “You”: Legal & Ethical Issues in Developing a Personal Brand

The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!!

Who we are:

Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making “dad jokes” and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby. Learn more at:

Katie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt’s youthful energy, so that she can take over the world. Learn more at:

A Quick Note:

Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it.

Our guests are also only speaking for themselves and have their own opinions. We aren’t trying to take their voice, and no one speaks for us either. Mostly because they don’t want to, but hey.


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