Not Your Typical Psychotherapist

Not Your Typical Psychotherapist

An interview with Ernesto Segismundo, Jr., M.S. LMFT about what it means to be “not your typical psychotherapist.” Curt and Katie talk with Ernesto about the overlap with the #moderntherapist and how to navigate the unique challenges of being different as a therapist.

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.

To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

Interview with Ernesto Segismundo, Jr. M.S. LMFT

Ernesto Segismundo is a licensed marriage and family therapist. Ernesto received his undergraduate degree in psychology from Biola University and received his Masters of Science degree in Clinical Psychology from Vanguard University. Ernesto has over 10 years of clinical counseling experience working in settings such as group homes, domestic violence shelters, churches, and outpatient programs. Ernesto treats marriage and family relationship problems. Ernesto also treat individuals suffering from depression, anxiety and addiction.

Along with Ernesto’s counseling experience, he has conducted various classes and seminars concerning relationships and mental health related topics such as parenting, substance abuse, maintaining healthy marriages, private practice social media and video marketing and managed care practices.

Ernesto is currently an adjunct professor at Hope International University and owns a group practice called CAV Family Therapy with offices located in Huntington Beach and Fullerton California.

In this episode we talk about:

  • The return of Ernesto Segismundo
  • Ernesto’s vision for traveling continuing education
  • The Not Your Typical Psychotherapist Summit
  • What it means to be a “not the typical psychotherapist” and the cross-over with #moderntherapists
  • The difficulty with have “haters” when you break out of the norm
  • The challenge of trying to do something and then getting shamed for not doing “enough.”
  • The importance of finding support with people who get it
  • The big vision that puts you in front of a large audience and makes you vulnerable
  • What it means to be authentically yourself and keep putting yourself out there
  • How being yourself is the same as branding – you will attract and you will repel
  • The social proof that can strongly contribute to these movements
  • How these movements can contribute to improvements in mental health stigma, mental health access
  • The importance of celebrating differences and accepting each other as atypical therapists
  • The benefits and the draw backs of communication on social media
  • How to effect change or provide feedback to people who are in the public eye
  • The difficulty when someone is shamed on social media
  • How you can take care of yourself as someone who is willing to step outside of the box
  • An Alternate title: Congratulations you now have haters

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Relevant Resources:

We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links:

CAV Family Therapy

CAV Academy – Traveling CE Provider

2020 Kauai Continuing Education Retreat for Therapists Hosted by CAV Academy

Not The Typical Psychotherapist Summit in Florida 2020

Relevant Episodes:

Ernesto’s First Episode on Social Media Marketing

The Modern Therapists Group on Facebook

Therapy Reimagined 2019

Who we are:

Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making “dad jokes” and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby. Learn more about Curt at

Katie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt’s youthful energy, so that she can take over the world. Learn more about Katie at

A Quick Note:

Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it.

Our guests are also only speaking for themselves and have their own opinions. We aren’t trying to take their voice, and no one speaks for us either. Mostly because they don’t want to, but hey.

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Voice Over by DW McCann

Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano

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