Taking a Shot at Vaccinations

Taking a Shot at Vaccinations

Curt and Katie chat about Covid vaccinations and how that will impact your work as a therapist. We look at who can be required to get a vaccine, what accommodations can be made for people who do not want to (or cannot) get vaccinated, and the clinical implications of the vaccine conversation coming into the therapy room.

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Laws and ethics related to requiring vaccinations for clients and employees
  • Vaccine exemptions and who/how they need to be honored
  • The best practices of encouraging
  • Accommodations for people who are not vaccinated
  • The complexities of following the health advice
  • Different considerations for employees and employers
  • What the implications are for requiring clients to get vaccines
  • The challenges of talking with clients about vaccines
  • Other options related to telehealth, masks, timelines for vaccines
  • When you may need to refer out
  • Strategies for working with insurance in the transition
  • What to do when you’re working at an agency
  • Implications for mental health access
  • Protecting yourself and managing your own risk
  • Clinical Implications of the vaccine and how to talk with your clients
  • Respecting the different reasons why people may be hesitant or refuse to get vaccinated
  • The cultural differences relevant to interaction with the medical system
  • The power differential and clinical ramifications
  • Helping clients making decisions around vaccination
  • Scope of practice and medical decision-making
  • The challenge to physical health being out of our scope of practice
  • The importance of having adequate knowledge of the science of the vaccines and the health decisions that clients often make
  • Where ethics come in – forcing our clients to follow “science” is unethical
  • Navigating the power differential
  • Additional considerations that we were not able to talk about

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Resources mentioned:

We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below might be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!

Article: Can Your Employer Require You to Get a Vaccine?

CDC: Information on COVID-19 Vaccinations

Tuskegee Medical Experiments (The Syphilis Study) – CDC

The Infamous Tuskegee Experiments – History

Relevant Episodes:

The Viral Episode

Malpractice is No Joke

Wear a Mask as a Therapy Directive

COVID-19 Legal and Ethical Updates

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Who we are:

Curt Widhalm is in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is the cofounder of the Therapy Reimagined conference, former CFO of the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, an Adjunct Professor at Pepperdine University, a former Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making “dad jokes” and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby. Learn more at: http://www.curtwidhalm.com

Katie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant supporting leaders, visionaries, executives, and helping professionals to create sustainable careers. Katie, with Curt, has developed workshops and a conference, Therapy Reimagined, to support therapists navigating through the modern challenges of this profession. Katie is also Past President of the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt’s youthful energy, so that she can take over the world. Learn more at: http://www.katievernoy.com

A Quick Note:

Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it.

Our guests are also only speaking for themselves and have their own opinions. We aren’t trying to take their voice, and no one speaks for us either. Mostly because they don’t want to, but hey.

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Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/

Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

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