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Episode 200: Mail Bag! Curt and Katie reflect on 200 episodes, answer questions and respond to feedback from listeners. We explore the tension between making a good living and providing affordable mental health care to consumers. We dig into paying prelicensed individuals, antitrust concerns, training centers, ethics codes, app therapy, setting fees, and therapist career […]
Why Therapists Quit Part 2 Curt and Katie chat about the response from listeners to our episode on why therapists quit. We look at the differences in responses (those who felt angry and those who felt validated) as well as our reasons for doubling down. We also dig into the differences between pessimism and realism, […]
Infertility and Pregnancy Loss, An Interview with Tracy Gilmour-Nimoy, LMFT An interview with Tracy Gilmour-Nimoy, LMFT, PMH-C, on understanding infertility as well as pregnancy and infant loss. Curt and Katie interview Tracy, a certified perinatal mental health professional, on what the medical and mental health professions often miss related to reproductive health and pregnancy. We […]
Why Therapists Quit Curt and Katie chat about the systemic reasons that therapists leave the profession. We look at the work environment, the infrastructure of community mental health, as well as the frequent ways that therapists set up their own private practices. We also identify changes on a systems level as well as calls to […]
Mental Health Entrepreneurship, An Interview with Lawrence E. Shapiro, PhD An interview with Lawrence E. Shapiro, Ph.D. about lessons learned through serial entrepreneurship. Curt and Katie talk with Dr. Shapiro about how to identify whether your idea for a product or service is good, the importance of solving a problem, and what business models are […]
Negotiating Sliding Scale Curt and Katie chat about the pros and cons of sliding your fee for therapy services. We look at the theories around fee-setting, sliding fee scales, and conversations around money. We discuss what actually makes a difference in determining if clients are invested and will benefit from your services. We also dig […]
Special Interview: Open Path Psychotherapy Collective An interview with Caitlin Erwin, Program Manager of Open Path Psychotherapy Collective. Curt and Katie talk with Caitlin about the origin of Open Path, the types of benefits therapists receive from joining, how to join, what the process looks like for clients, and the business decisions you’ll want to […]
Invisible and Scrutinized, An Interview with Dr. Sheila Modir An interview with Dr. Sheila Modir on racial trauma and identity within the Middle Eastern North African (MENA) population. Curt and Katie talk with Sheila about how MENA individuals are impacted by racial profiling, prejudice, and the lack of data on the MENA community. We also […]
Understanding Polyamory: An Interview with Dana McNeil, LMFT An interview with Dana McNeil, LMFT, about polyamory and ethical non-monogamy. Curt and Katie talk with Dana about the basics that every therapist should understand about polyamory. We cover some of the vocabulary, the values and perspectives within the polyamory community, as well as the biases many […]
Overcoming Your Poverty Mindset, An Interview with Tiffany McLain, LMFT An interview with Tiffany McLain about how therapists deserve to make a good living and often do not. Curt and Katie interview Tiffany regarding her perspectives related to how sliding scale fees can perpetuate racist and classist systems, the problem with therapists sacrificing themselves and […]
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The Math is Mathing (But You’re Doing it Wrong): Income vs. RevenueFebruary 17, 2026 - 10:03 pm
Spring Health Acquires Alma: What It Means for Independent TherapistsFebruary 3, 2026 - 7:01 pm
Mastering Burnout and Building Resilience in Therapy – Katie’s interview on the Mastering Counseling PodcastAugust 8, 2024 - 12:31 am
Getting involved politically as a therapistJuly 11, 2022 - 11:56 pm